But how many of us have torn our hair out at the confusion that comes from researching the same name occurring down the generations? Such as:
- In my husband's family of direct ancestors - there were three Robert Donaldson's, followed by three John Robert Donaldson's, spanning over 200 years.
- On his mother's side, there was Matthew White, followed by three direct descendants named Matthew Iley White.
- My G.G.G. Grandfather's sister was Jennet Danson, who in 1786 married a John Bryning of Carleton, Poulton-le-Fylde Lancashire.
But when I came to research this branch of the family, I discovered there were eleven John Bryning/Brining descendants living in the Fylde area at the turn of the 18th to 19th centuries - all descendant of John Bryning (1703-1779) through his sons, John and Richard, with their sons, grandsons and great grandsons taking the name of the family patriach.
Jennet Danson's father-in-law John Bryning died in 1820 and in his will, he notes: "My pew in the north gallery to my son John". This boxed pew is still in place at St. Chad's Church, Poulton-le-Fylde. My photograph is not very good, but you can make out the name and the date 1778
St.Chad's Church with the Bryning pew at the front of the gallery on the left.
My parents were married here and I was baptised in the same church.
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One John Bryning stands out amongst the eleven - Rev. John Bryning (1770-1855), grandson of the first John Bryning. My first knowledge of him came many years ago through a response to a query on an Ancestry Message Board. My contact, a descendant of the Rev. Bryning, was able to supply me with a fund of documentary evidence, plus several obituaries. He certainly had led an eventful life.
He was bound to an apprentice to a mercantile firm in Liverpool, rising to the position of foreman and in this capacity travelled widely. He was in Brussels when the Battle of Waterloo was fought in 1815 and wrote about "the booming of the terrific engines of death."
Sometime in his 40's he left the merchant life behind for quite a different calling - that of the ministry. In 1820 he travelled to Quebec and became a preacher at New Brusnwick on the Long Point Settlement on Lake Eerie. He was ordained as a pastor of the Presbyterian Church of Canada. and established a church at Munt Pleasant, Simcoe.
He became a colourful and influential leader, a familiar sight in in the Long Point Settlement. An obituary noted that
"In pioneer times he fornightly travelled the considerable distance between churches by horse and buggy on dirt roads, which turned to mire in rain..... He was esteemed throughout the area as a tireless man of the cloth."Presbyterian church historian James Dey described the Rev. Bryning thus:
"Mr Bryning was, in more senses than one, a great man. Physically he was great, well proportioned and muscular, he was of astonishing weight of 412 pounds. He had three wives and fiftenn vigorous children..... He laboured incessantly to preach the glad tiding of the everlasting gospel to the few and scattered inhabitants, gifted with a vigorous constitution and as vigorous a mind, undaunted by difficulties, ready and ever working for the case of Christ against bigotry and superstition......He has left a memorable example for succeeding ministries."
The Reverend John Bryning died 15th September 1853 aged 83 - his eldest son his namesake.
With thanks to Yvonne for her contribution to this family history profile.
Postscript
I have come across four public trees on Ancestry that have the Rev. John Bryning
as the son of John Bryning and Jennet Danson (my ancestor) - wrong,
wrong, wrong! I have the marriage bond of John and Jennet dated 1786,
when the Reverend was already 16 years old. Jennet’s son John was born 1801 and
lived all his life in the Fylde region of Lancashire. He remained unmarried, making his home with his two sisters Margaret and Betty. He died in 1874 aged 72; his life, verified by
statutory BMD records, census returns and monumental inscriptions.
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Eleven! It's no wonder people get it wrong. I particularly like the way you correct the wrong trees and explain your reasoning.
ReplyDeleteI'm having some trouble with my Babcock family names as there was too much recycling of names in the different generations. Sigh
ReplyDeleteA common genealogy problem but how frustrating in the case of the Rev John Bryning - "a great man" who would not likely have been confused with another in his life time - and an ocean away. So interesting to see your Canadian connection. (I have relatives from Simcoe area.)
ReplyDeleteAt one stage in my tree I have 8 generations all named Edward Mainwaring ;)
ReplyDeleteIt is frustrating to come across misinformation in public trees. I think the best is to have your own published tree right and to blog about the mistake. I also share some of my tree on WikiTree, a work in slow progress. I raised the wrong information in a discussion thread so others could review my reasoning. Once consensus was reached I made sure the correct information was on WikiTree with sources.
Regards
Anne
Finding that pew must have been so rewarding! Great story!
ReplyDeleteThanks for working to seperate your Johns. What a challenge.
ReplyDeleteLove the pew photos! What a wonderful ancestral artifact. Great job unraveling the many Johns and focusing on one of the most memorable descendants.
ReplyDeleteThank you all for your kind comments, and the best of luck (and good research!} in unraveling your multi same names.
ReplyDeleteYIKES! 11 at the same time and place! YIKES again! Good job sorting it out.
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